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Committee Name: Curriculum and Instruction Policy
Meeting Date: 4/9/2021 12:00:00 AM
  • Cindy Wallin
  • Hailey Hermosa
  • Cynthia Deutsch
  • Kris Ogden
  • Michael Faris
  • Jim Tuite
  • Marci Gale
  • Patti Saffioti
  • Michael Babcock
  • Muriel Mickles
  • Ava Connelly
  • Mary Zoccola
  • Karen Alexander
  • Brent Lester
  • Jason Ferguson
Shared January 14th minutes
  • Motion to approve:
    • Motion: Cindy Wallin
    • Second: Marci Gale
    • Unanimously Approved
  • Naming of program updates:
    • Marci/Kris: We resolved the issue for mechatronics and are using that as a model for other programs moving forward.
  • Arts & Sciences Division, Cindy Wallin
    • Early college: no updates at this point.
    • Transfer VA – significant changes are taking place, just as an FYI some disciplines are choosing to implement revisions in Fall 2021, others are waiting until Fall 2022. Taking place on a department-based decision – some courses are more involved than others (Ex. BIO 141).
    • Transfer VA will impact our General Studies degree. We will be working over the next few months to align our General Studies degree pathway with Transfer VA.
    • Vote next week on UCGS. Once that falls into place, we will begin to look at our transfer programs and align them accordingly.
      • Kris: Asked about the timing.
      • Cindy: Everything has up to an 18-month lag time according to the Dean’s Course Review. So, our Gen Ed revisions will be implemented in Fall 2022.
  • Professional & Career Studies Division, Jason Ferguson
    • Kris:
      • We have been working to get a general allied health pathway that is financial aid eligible.
      • Because of our relationship with Centra we do not have our own nursing program.
      • Because we do not have an entry level CSC for these programs, currently they are not G3 or REV eligible.
      • We have been working with Reynolds Community College to model this new variable Career Studies Certificate as used at our peer institutions.
    • Jason:
      • Goal is to have a G3, REV and other aid eligible allied health program(s).
      • Opportunity to get folks in the door.
      • Please see attached proposal: Pre-Allied Health – CSC (VCCS Plan Code:  221-190-01, CIP 51-0999)
        • One program w/ variability based on the program concentration.
        • ½ are selective programs, students cannot be enrolled until they are accepted.
        • SDV 101 – makes it more career orientated with Allied Health emphasis
        • Electives based on the program, variability there.
        • Total program credits 17 - 27
    • Questions on attached proposal: Pre-Allied Health – CSC
      • Karen: With only one curriculum number, how would that work in set-up?
        • Kris: Kevin Riley confirmed this could be done in SIS.
        • Current Health Sciences I & II pathways will remain.
      • Patti: Why is the Med Lab pathway so science heavy?
        • Jason: Some of those credits fulfill the science requirement and some fulfill the elective requirement.
      • Jim: How would this effect our dual enrolled students?
        • Jason: Those students are not financially aid eligible anyway.
        • Muriel: Nothing will change for them.
      • Karen: How will we be able to determine when the student is eligible for graduation? Especially with one code.
        • Kris: There is a big advising piece that must go with this. This opens the door to have our Health Sciences included for REV eligibility.
        • Jason: Pathway right into CVCC programs, confer the 27 credits and then roll over to Centra for the remainder of the program.
      • Cindy/Marci: How would these variable programs be marketed?
        • Muriel: They can only get one CSC.
        • Jason: Only confer the 27-credit degree.
      • Cindy: What degree is conferred?
        • Jason: Pre-Allied Health CSC
      • Michael: Doesn’t G3 require us to confer degrees as they are earned? How is this compliant w/ G3?
        • Jason – Initially G3 said 3 levels required, then they modified and allowed some exemptions.
      • Michael: If I take 20 credits of Rad Tech but do not get accepted into the program, will I get conferred a degree?
        • Jason: should always be an option. Maybe those credits go towards a General Studies degree.
      • Marci: Can SDV 101 be transferred between programs?
        • Jason: Yes
        • Muriel: They are interchangeable, no question.
      • Muriel: Back to conferring a CSC w/ variable 17 – 27 credits. Would we confer a CSC at 17 credit hours?
        • Karen: There is no way to distinguish the various programs in set-up.
        • Kris: I will have to get more information on this.
        • Muriel: Other schools are doing it; we just need to figure out the logistics.
        • Karen: If we advertise a credential in at pathway with a lower number of credits required, we need to be awarding those credentials, not just the final 27 credit hour CSC.
      • Karen: What is the need to keep Health Sciences I & II?
        • Muriel: We have been using this curriculum for years because some of our partners like it just how it is.
        • Kris: Health Sciences I & II are not G3 eligible, so we must have another avenue. It is also, what our high schools map to.
      • Cindy: Can we check w/ Reynolds and get more information?
        • Muriel: Kevin Riley said that LFCC set their credit total to the lowest amount of credits needed. They have a four-block requirement and when they all are checked, they graduate from the program.
        • Kris: Four blocks: SDV 100, ENG 111, BIO, Program Specific
      • Karen: In any scenario, would a student working towards a higher credit program (Pre-Nursing) check off the four boxes at a lower number of credits and by default be forced from the program prematurely, effecting future aid eligibility? We need more information of what the blocks are so we can run the scenarios. If the credits they have completed do bump them out of eligibility, what are their options? Students could have transfer credit that knock out some of the blocks for other programs. Residency requirements could also be an issue.
        • Jason: I do not think the program blocks align. Transfer credit we would have to look at on a case-by-case basis. I think there is enough difference between the four levels that students would not test out, with few exceptions. Remember advising in key.
        • Muriel: We must do the best thing for each individual student.
        • Karen: Funding models could be a challenge. Timing will be very important and tricky.
        • Muriel: It will be tricky for the counselors and advisors.
        • Jason: We are doing this based on other colleges. I think this is something we need to go with, sooner than later. Marketing has already started for G3.
        • Cindy: In what Kevin sent, only 14 credits minimum in each block. Do we need to adjust that to 17?
        • Jason: They will have to hit a minimum in each area to hit the 17.
      • Karen: Any way to create separate codes?
        • Jason: That creates stand-alone programs.
        • Kris: We will not be able to get a stand-alone pathway for nursing using that model, so we remain competitive.
      • Cindy: Could we edit the BIO requirement to fix the 14 vs. 17 credit problem?
        • Karen: That would throw-off the program electives. Once those blocks are marked complete those blocks will not be eligible for further funding.
      • Michael: Maybe set-up at the largest credit for aid eligibility reasons. On the advising piece, how do advisors run advising reports? That ability may be compromised. Capping at the smallest amount will run into issues with FACA.
        • Muriel: I would like to know more from Kevin on how this is being entered into SIS.
           
    • Table the discussion until next meeting
      • Cindy:
        • We need to do some research and reconvene.
      • Muriel:
        • We need to figure out exactly how the other colleges are doing it. We need to pull Kevin into the conversation.
      • Kris:
        • We are in the middle of a state level initiative and we need to have something that we can use to attract students. Without this we will be missing an opportunity. The more we push this out the less likely we will have something to include in the legislation and state initiatives.
      • Muriel:
        • We need to move something out so we can circle back to students we have missed. I really want us to move forward with this. Do not want to miss opportunities for our students.
      • Kris:
        • Will get with Kevin and our sister institutions and get back with everyone.
      • Muriel:
        • Motion to table.
           
  •  ​Meeting Adjourned
    • Karen:
      • Meeting adjourned at 2:02pm.
      • We will send a meeting invite out for an emergency follow-up meeting.
Hailey Hermosa
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